Monday, April 25, 2011

97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

97 Grand cherokee laredo 4.0.
Low idle, occasionally stalls until I floor it in neutral and it comes back now. ( didnt used to) Mainly stalls at low RPMs...but lately I have noticed it did it's ...( stupid thing it does, with sputtering, sometimes backfiring etc)...after I go over some bumpy terrain, which is not often. ( heavy side to side motion).

It's not predictable. Sometimes it will cut out once or twice at higher RPMs like maybe 2K. I thought it was bad gas...so I dried it with alcohol. I thought the side to side motion ( rocking) caused crap in the gas tank to clog the lifetime fuel filter.

NEW:
Battery ( cleaned posts and cables to a shine too)
TPS ( mine broke)
IAC ( no change after cleaning throttle body, so I put the factory one back on)
CPS- MOPAR.
PLUGS
ROTOR cap
Wires ( last summer)
Dist. Cap ( last summer, but I have a new one to install tonight)

Just installed a new pick up coil ( cam pos sensor). Havent driven it yet. But it started fine and idled OK. This is not uncommon.
Wiggled CPS wires and harness while idling today. No change.
Bought new primary coil, havent installed it.
Fuel pressure at rail is fine.

Codes, as they were printed out today before swapping cam sensor:

PO320
Ignition/dist
Engine Speed Input
Circuit malfunction

PO351
Ignition Coil A
Primary/Secondary
Circuit Malfunction

Plugs to PCM wiggled while running...no change.
New Cat convertor last summer.

When it idles ....SOMETIMES it has a slight, almost unnoticable miss. It's random , not at regular intervals.

Rear main seal leaks, so I noticed oil on the Crank Pos sensor that I replaced. Beginning to wonder if that's the culprit.
And yes, I know about the screw length on the PCM cover.

Anyone have an idea?

Thanks in advance.

Reply 1 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Swapped relays around - no change.
Connections look fine.

Also....something occurred to me about this ....the stalling started right after I lost power window functions at driver's door. Replaced module on drivers door..no change. Looked for bad/broken wires in door jam...all seem ok...even after splitting boot. Bad ground somewhere in window circuit causing glitches in PCM ? Battery ground to body OK. Cant seem to find engine ground to body...although I know it's supposed to be on firewall.

Reply 2 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I had a similar problem with my '93 YJ. After hours of guessing it ended up being a loose bolt on the exhaust manifold.

Reply 3 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
Update: Found a ground point on the engine block, passenger side near the rear. Decided to put a wrench on it....and it turned pretty easily.
Took the nut off and the wire that came from the harness....sprayed the contact points with contact cleaner, wiped them, and reinstalled the nut tightly. Two days now and no sputtering, although it still idles low.
Will look for vacuum leaks today. But maybe the main stalling problem is fixed. Keep your fingers crossed.

Reply 4 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

No luck.
Today, it was low on gas, so I headed the station about 1/2 mile away, after a cold start. It sputtered a bit but as long as I kept the rpms up it ran ok. Pulled into station and the vehicle rocked a bit as I was pulling in the driveway. It tried to die on me. I thrw it in neutral, gave it gas...and it tried to keep running, but it sounded like the timing was way off...running at near stall speed. It finally backfired loudly and died. Got the gas....tried to start it. It died as I put it in gear, 2 or 3 times in a row. It finally started. Had it scanned.
Map sensor voltage too HIGH...and the primary coil code...faulty circuit again. ( misfire). Replaced map sensor. Disconected battery, turned on key to clear codes....and it still idles low after warm up.

Any ideas? Fuel pump?

Reply 5 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I'm no expert, but I have been a shade tree mechanic for many years.

Did the power window problems and the stalling problem start at the same time?

Do the power windows work from the controls on the passenger and other doors?

Have you checked the voltage to the coil from the PCM?

When you say rough terrain, are puddles of water involved?

Does rocking of the vehicle seem to cause it? (if it is running fine, could you get it to mess up by rocking the vehicle side to side or front to back)

Can you smell gas in the exhaust? I doubt it, but it's worth a sniff.

BTW, you probably know this, but it's usually not a good idea to clear the codes by disconnecting the battery. The PCM loses the stored information that should help it run better.(not always the case)

Reply 6 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Update:

New fuel pump and filters installed after the stalling got worse. Cleaned out tank too.

No change after the first 20 miles of driving.

It still dies as if the ignition was turned off.
I cant help but think there is a bad wire feeding the coil that heats up, since it wiring lies close to the engine block and the motor mount.

Anyone have any other ideas? This had gotten old and expensive !

Stalling mainly occurs when the outside temp is over 50 degrees and/or the engine is at operating temp....but not always.

Reply 7 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I seen where this guy fixed all the problems with jeep grand cherokee....The ecm is grounded in some way the bolts are to long and it makes it short out a little but he took off all the bolts that hold it on and he hasnt had any problems with it in a year... So i did the same thing amonth ago and WOW it runs great....NOW IF WE CAN GET JEEP TO REFUND US ALL THE MONEY WE WASTED ON PARTS AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULD HAVE SOME MONEY .....Good luck and happy rideing mark

Reply 8 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I seen where this guy fixed all the problems with jeep grand cherokee....The ecm is grounded in some way the bolts are to long and it makes it short out a little but he took off all the bolts that hold it on and he hasnt had any problems with it in a year... So i did the same thing amonth ago and WOW it runs great....NOW IF WE CAN GET JEEP TO REFUND US ALL THE MONEY WE WASTED ON PARTS AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULD HAVE SOME MONEY .....Good luck and happy rideing mark

Reply 9 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Backed out the torx screws you mentioned long ago. No change. I backed them out more last saturday and pulled the ECU connectors, sprayed them with contact cleaner and reinserted them. Havent driven it but about 10 miles since then, and the weather was cold, so dont know if it helped yet. It usually dies when the weather is warm, but not always.

My tach still wobbles a bit ( about 25 RPM or so) at near idle speeds, so I'm guessing it isnt fixed yet.

Still searching for the engine to body ground strap. If anyone knows exactly where it is, please advise. It's supposed to be on the back of the head or block, and attached to the firewall. Havent found it yet.

Reply 10 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Here's an update, maybe with some good news for a change. Keeping my fingers crossed !

I have driven it a little over 100 miles in town now, since the fuel pump replacement, cleaning out the gas tank, and more recently, pulling the ECU connectors and spraying them with contact cleaner, backing out the OUTBOARD torx screw on the front of the ECU cover a bit more, swapping out the coil wire, adding a quart of oil and filling the tank with fresh gas.

It has barely tried to act up ( bucked and nearly died)....only three times...and it NEVER died !

So, here's ONE theory. It was the fuel pump and water in the tank.
After I had drained the tank and cleaned it out, I had to pour about 2 gallons of the old gas back into the tank in order to get to a station to fill up. Well, I went home from my girlfriends place that night( after replacing fuel pump) and didnt fill up on the way...since I dont live far and it was late. As I poured the gas back into the DRY gas tank, I tried to make sure I only poured the gas off the "top" of my gas cans, leaving any water in the bottom of the can, thus NOT pouring it back into my Jeep. I poured a little from each of the two, five gallon cans, so as to not disturb any water that settled.

I MAY have gotten a little water in my Jeep....but not much if any. And THAT could be the NEW reason it has tried to stall ( bucked and sputtered three times in 100 miles)...but did NOT stall. That was theory number one.

Theory number two is :

The ECU connectors were the problem, OR the outboard torx screw that I backed out even MORE could have been the problem ....and the bad fuel pump was only ONE of the original problems. ( along with water in the tank)

It could have, of course, been the coil wire that I swapped out. The plug wires were about 18 months old and I had bought a new set, that was sitting in the box...so I swapped out the coil wire only.

I wont keep you hanging, though. I will drive it and put some SERIOUS miles on it tomorrow and see if the bucking or the stalling comes back.......and THEN I WILL post to help anyone else that has had this trouble.

I'm guessing that I had multiple problems that overlapped and masked the main one. Time and more miles will tell. I just pray that it's fixed !

I'll be back soon.

Reply 11 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

update:

It tried to stall a few times during the 240 miles I have put on it since the last work was performed.

Last nite, out of nowhere, it acted stupid again. Arrgh ! It was drizzling rain and cold. The rain has never been a problem before. I pulled over, let it idle ( after restarting it once again) and wiggled the plugs on the ECU cover.

It died. I thought it was a fluke, so I started it once again. It was running a bit rough, so again I wiggled the plugs. It would clear up and then die. Restarted it again and let it idle. Watched it without touching anything for a minute. Then I wiggled them again, particularly the inboard plug....in all different directions. It would clear up but I couldnt hold it there....then it would act up again. So I got it running again and drove to my girlfriend's condo, where we were heading at the time anyway.

Oh, BTW this is the second time I've put more gas in the tank since the fuel pump. I filled up again at 1/2 a tank.

After about 2 miles.....it really started acting up....stalling, and bucking....and while it was trying to restart it backfired TWICE, loudly....but it restarted. Pulled into her carport...let it idle and it was fine. Came back out, started it and wiggled the inboard ECU plug.

NO CHANGE. It ran pefectly. I left her place at 4 AM and it did OK all the way home...( about a 10 minute drive).

I noticed that there is a little plastic piece that came off the ECU plugs when I pulled them earlier in the week. No way to put them back in. They lie on top of the plug somehow.

Today, I'll pull them again, spray with contact cleaner and see what happens.

Should I put dielectric grease on them or not? There was no sign of any grease ever being on them when I pulled them the last time.

I'm getting close....but still no cigar. I could be buying gas with water in it and not know it. That would really tick me off.----


Another update: I start the jeep today....wiggle the ECU connectors and every wire I can find...and I cant MAKE it stall now.

This is driving me nuts !

Reply 12 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Damian007 ,

I know it's a lot to ask of you, but would you please read my thread and offer up what you can for me?

Reply 13 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

The plastic pieces are probably the clamps. They hold the connector in place. The dialectric will help keep shorts from happening. If it works when you pull in one direction and doesn't in another, then the connector may be dirty or have a bent pin. It also may have a 'High Resistance connection' or a broken wire. Maybe it's missing a pin.

Anyway, if you can, get a new connector and wire it up. Or you could connect the plug more securely. It more than likely just loose because the clamps broke off.

Reply 14 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I still can't help but wonder if the Power Window on the driver's door is the culprit. After everything you have replaced or fixed, a faulty wire or circuit interruption seem probable.

It could be that the plastic piece on the ECU was an insulater between Pos and Neg circuits and any moisture inside is creating a sporatic arc that interupts the voltage levels in the PCM.

An exposed wire in the power window circuit may also arc to ground at times affecting the voltage levels in the PCM.

Because the PCM is digital, a sudden drop of even .5 volts inside the PCM circuits could change outputs that trick the computer into correcting problems that don't exist or just send out incorrect signals.

I would look for any indication of overheated wires or hot spots on exposed metal near wires that may indicate a spark.

Other than that, I would doublecheck the alignment and tightness of the crankshaft sensor and do a continuity check on the wiring while wiggling the wire.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful

Reply 15 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Don't know why I keep crossing the two.

What I meant was the digital circuits in the ECU not the PCM. I would check for continuity and shorts between the two wires from the Crankshaft sensor to the ECU, set at the lowest Ohms with the wires disconnected from both the ECU and the Sensor.

Reply 16 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Bruce - I have a similar problem to the one you're asking about; 90% of the time the power windows in my 1998 Cherokee Sport work from the driver's door switches only. They will occasionally work from the other switches, but this is infrequent.

Additionally, my gauges (sppedo, tach, odo) will sometimes die for short periods of time.

Hoping you may be able to help, based on your answers above.

Reply 17 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Thank you for the info. My Dad who is a mechanic also had tried everything that you had and the car keeped stalling. We took it to a diagnostic place that charged us $100 to tell us that it was the distributor. We knew it was not the distributor because it was already been replaced and nothing change. I came across your blog and my Dad and husband did as you said. My Dad has been driving the jeep for almost a month and it has not stalled on him. Thank you for everything.

Reply 18 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

This should help. I read the solution on the car forum some time ago when my 98 Jeep Cherokee had the same stalling problems. The screws are shorting out the board inside the ECM. What you do is back out the screws, located under the plugs, on the front of the ECM (husband says they're a booger to get to and they are torx head screws). Back out the screws 2 full turns and you're problems should be solved (just like mine were). Give it a try. The guy who posted this on the car forum some time ago is a GENIUS! My Jeep is back to normal

Reply 19 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I have a 97 jeep grand cherokee laredo 4.0. First my problem was it backfiring, stalling, spitting, sputtering and so on, After replacing the fuel pump, cam sensor, crank sensor, coil, distributor cap, rotor button i found the post on here that said to back the screws out of the ECM and clean the connectors so I did this and WOW my jeep started and ran like new then.....:( after never having the check engine light come on here it goes flashing so I took it and had the codes read and it listed it was misfiring on every cylinder so they reset the codes and the jeep continued to run until the next day went to start it up and nothing it seemed to be firing intermitedly so then found a spark plug wire that was bad and so replaced them. It started up after a few tries and ran really rough then smoothed out idled perfect drove all afternoon then today again it won't start.... Can anyone help???

Reply 20 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

we have a 98 jeep grand cherokee 4x4 with similar problems...new spark plugs and a transmission flush really helped tremendously!

Reply 21 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

The PCM is sending instructions to your engine that cause it to stall or run poorly. But that does not mean the PCM is bad. There are a lot of sensors that feed info to the PCM, and any one of them can cause the PCM to deliver the same bad instructions, and even give misleading engine codes as the chain-reaction ensues. That's why there are so many fixes for these same symptoms posted around the web.

I suggest changing your MAP sensor and/or crank position sensor. The MAP is easier to replace (5 minutes, literally), the crank sensor is tough to get to but only one bolt. Throttle position sensor is a player too, but I see you replaced that.

Also, after changing sensors, the PCM might freak out and the engine runs like garbage for a minute or two as everything "settles." But that behavoir should not continue once the PCM "learns." Scary.

Good luck.

Reply 22 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Well as you all know I do have a 1996 jeep grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0 straight 6 cylinder. Now do to my experience with these jeep/dodge/Chrysler nightmares is that when Dodge/Chrysler took over and they took a crap and my car came out. Now that I'm done venting a little this is what I have done so far with my jeep:

About 6 months ago I was starting to have major problems with my jeep. The first of it was the of course the stalling problem but mine loves to play jokes on me and while I'm trying to fix the stalling problem I realized one morning that I was leaking a large amount of red fluid.witch is know as transmission fluid, so I took a little drive in first gear down to the local transmission shop and they said I needed a full rebuild..awesome. So I got that replaced and then I was back on the road. Now back to my little stalling problem I first was throwing a code that was basically a secondary coil failure. So I went and replaced the coil pack the distributor cap, rotor, and the time senor in the bottom of the distributor. Spark plugs and wires and a new ground cable just in case. Ran fine for a little while then as I'm in the high way the jokes come back. I then realized that if I turn the off the key and then on again 3 times it starts right back up and it will run for a little while then stall again. From there I then got in to a pattern that if it dose stall that day its going to the stall the whole day not just once but maybe about 3 to 4 times. If it dose not stall for that day I'm golden it runs great. So then I went ahead and replaced the fuel pump and also all the auto shutdown relays. I then drove it for a while and then here come the jokes. The problem is that fro some reason I was in the snow and it did stall and some how it blew out the transfer case because I was in 4 wheel drive but only the front was working (minds well by a pregnant Honda). Great so I then I replaced the transfer case and back to normal. The stalling is happening soon than before now that where in the summer I did notice that it happens when its either worm or wet out side.

From there I decided to replace the crank sensor for the timing issue and also I went and took it to get all the recalls known to man from jeep. Nothing, still stalling. So then I went and I replaced all the O2 sensors and also took a trip to the junk yard and picked up a throttle body, I cleaned the while unit out and then I took mine off and compared. I didnt see any thing out of the ordinary so I replaced mine with the junk yard one and it ran better but still stalling. Ok, so by now I have spent over 4,000 bucks on this car and I got it for 3,000 (witch I knew it needed work but wow). I then went and check all the fuses to see if I could find any thing and nothing then for some reason my windows stop working and my power mirrors would not work. So then I went back and check them again and nothing so I went back to the junk yard and got a new door panel and the control modular for the drive side. I needed a door panel because it came off and would not shut right and it would leave my dome lights on when I'm driving so I got mad and tore it off. BIG mistake because you cant find thou any where and when you do your gona pay 80 bucks like I did. Any hoot replaced the whole panel and it was working just fin again. Back to my stalling problem I then was reading about this fix, I was like yay!!! So I back out the screws and replaced them with shorter ones and also got plastic screws for the body to make sure there is no grounding and I also made a plastic back side for my computer to make sure it was not getting any kind of short Im not gone lie it worked for a while fro about a month and then back to the jokes, it stalls.

So after all that, I decided to do the whole swap out of the ECU computer. I went threw this place, http://store.allcomputerresources.com/index.html I was reading that you need to make sure its a remanufactured unit not a refurbished on because there going to do the same thing in a matter of time. I also like them because its a life time warranty so if this fixes the problem and it happens down the road all I got to do is send it in. Also these cars are not Hondas you have to order one of these babies because you have to have your mileage and also your VIN number has to be burned in the computer you just cant go to the junk yard and pick one out of an other car and expect it to work. If you do that your going to risk of setting off the anti theft system and ill tell you thats no good. Thats not even a joke it pure hell. So I order mine for about 324.00 bucks with 2 day air and I should be getting it on Friday.

I will check back when I install it and let you people know who have tried every thing in the books. For some reason after all my research a lot of the forms dont tell you that getting a new Computer fixes the problem. So thats why I'm writing this so then you can get a good fix other then that screw business. Well I hope this helps a little bit and what I have tried. If this dose not work I'm going to tackle the wiring harness and the after that I'm going to light it on fire and push it off a cliff. I hope this helps some people.

Reply 23 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Sorry for the long delay in posting my fix, guys. I guess I was so happy that it's fixed, I just forgot.

Refer to my other posts about this Jeep...for the history.

It was the blasted plugs on the PCM !

I had unplugged the 3 wiring harness plugs and sprayed the crap out of them with contact cleaner before...with minimal results.

But on a hunch and some advice from an old Jeep Mechanic...I took some zip ties and put 2 on each plug....running them around the back of the PCM, vertically. 'Cinched them all down tight with pliers...then put another one across all of them.

Jeep Stalling is fixed ! It's been over 4 months and it hasnt even hicupped once. Evidently the heat and vibration caused them to have an intermittent connection at times....throwing the computer out of whack....thus..the stalling, backfiring, stuttering....and bad timing.

Heck, I may even put some JB weld on those dang computer plugs now !

If I could only get my stupid power window problem nailed down, I'd be happy now. There are 206,500 miles on that 4.0 engine and it still runs great. Hope this helps someone.

Reply 24 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Before you go changing all kinds of sensors, pick up some heavy duty 24" zip ties. Clean the inside of the pins and the contacts on the PCM with DeOxit G5. As npgreek has stated, wrap the zipties around the back of the PCM and cross vertically over the connectors and cinch down tight. You'll notice the connectors no longer move in the sockets. PROBLEM SOLVED!

Reply 25 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Anyone have any idea why my 94 Grand Cheerokee stalls when shifting from reverse to forward when i back out of the driveway almost every morning. Had the crank positoin sensor changed and that eliminated the random stalling but not this problem
Dave in S. Jersey

Reply 26 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I recently replaced the IAC motor as it seemed to stall when I took my foot off the gas sometimes. That mode of stalling has stopped. I also replaced the coil because it would die will cruising for a few seconds and the PCM code said there was a problem with it. That problem has not returned. I still do the "wiggle" and I know the PCM connections are flaky. Allied Electronics sells a burnisher specifically designed for sockets like the type used in the PCM plugs. It has 20 mil rods that will fit inside the contacts and give them a good polish. For the PCM pins, I'm using a plate-maker's eraser. It's like a typewriter eraser. You sharpen it like a pencil and you have a pointy, abrasive tool that you and polish the pins with. I'm also going to try the big, honkin ty-wrap on my PCM and see how that performs. Thanks for sharing your experiences with the rest of us frustrated drivers.

Reply 27 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

The ty-wraps are working wonderfully by the way. Thanks!

Reply 28 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

I am having similar issues with my JC Laredo and came across this page. Any thoughts or ideas ? I have read most of these threads and seems like it could be a couple of things. Has 205,000 miles. Runs great besides the stalling issues.

Jeep is stalling out when you let of gas (stop signs,etc.). Starts up again no problem. Brought it in 2 weeks ago. They cleaned out the Idle Air Control Motor and Upper Engine. Solved the problem for about a week or so and now it is back. First it was sputtering at stops, but now it is completely stalling out. Anyone with similar issues have a fix or ideas??

Reply 29 : 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee stalling not fixed yet...

Thanks very much for posting this. I was going down the road of so many others. Trani flush, Speed sensor, TPS, fuel pump... $1200 bucks later this post finally fixed it. Wiggling around those plugs did shut it down. Now hopefully I can keep them tight enough.
Thanks, Again!

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Reply 1 : DACEASY SETTINGS TO READ THE TIKETS OF A DIGITAL SCALE

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Bob

Reply 2 : DACEASY SETTINGS TO READ THE TIKETS OF A DIGITAL SCALE

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Your scale might require some helper app.
Bob

Reply 3 : DACEASY SETTINGS TO READ THE TIKETS OF A DIGITAL SCALE

From what I read daceasy is an accounting package, not a POS (point of sale) one. So I doubt if it can be done. However, http://www.sage.com/yourbusiness/customersupport will be a much better help than anybody here.

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The problem is that they are just disabled, not uninstalled. In other words, they are hidden somewhere in C:Windows, consuming some hard disk space. Using RT 7 Lite to remove them, they are completely removed. There will not be any trace of them in C:Windows, thus no hard disk space is occupied by them.



10. I cannot install Service Pack in my slimmed-down Windows 7. Help?

For sure, we cannot install Service Pack on a slimmed-down Windows. Since Service Pack will check whether any Windows component is removed before installation, if I remove just one component via RT 7 Lite, Service Pack cannot be installed. This is a problem for those who does not perform frequent fresh installation of Windows, but it is not a problem for me. Why? Service Packs are usually received every year or so. By then, I have no problem reinstalling Windows again, just to ensure everything run as quick as before. Besides that, I will download original untouched Windows 7 SP2 iso when it is released. I will again use RT 7 Lite to slim down Windows 7 SP2. So, the problem of not able to install Service Pack in slimmed Windows 7 is not a problem for me, as I would have made fresh images by then.



11. Can I install any Windows Updates (msu) in my slimmed-down Windows 7?

In a slimmed down Windows 7 SP1, you can install any Windows Update without any problem. It works just well for me. However, the main rule is that you should not remove Component Cache (winsxs) via RT 7 Lite. Removing Component Cache (winsxs) will cause you to be unable to install any subsequent Windows Updates and LDR Hotfixes, although any Windows Updates integrated via RT 7 Lite will continue to function just fine.



12. Can I update any driver after I have installed this customized Windows 7 in my laptop?

Yes, you can. Windows will automatically install the drivers newer than those integrated into the image.



13. How frequent should I create this customized Windows 7 installation DVD?

You can create the DVD as frequent as once per month, just after Patch Tuesday. If you create it too frequent, you may waste your time doing it as there may not be any new Windows Updates or new drivers to be slipstreamed. The lowest frequency I would recommend is once every 6 months. If you rarely create the DVD, it would be troublesome for you once you reinstall Windows. By then, you have to wait Windows Updates update your Windows, install newer drivers, all of this defeating the purpose of creating customized Windows 7 installation DVD. I will usually create such DVD once every 2 months.





B. Prerequisite



1. Original Alienware Windows 7 installation DVD, or original unmodified Windows 7 SP1 image from MSDN (recommended)

- It is preferable to use Windows 7 SP1 image, as you do not have to waste time integrating Service Pack 1. Still, the Alienware installation DVD works just fine.



2. 64 bit RT 7 Lite

- It is most recommended to use RT 7 Lite Release Candidate (Build 1.7.0, 64 bit), especially if you use Windows 7 SP1 image. The resultant customized Windows 7 image is more stable to be used.

- If you use Alienware Windows 7 installation DVD, you have to use RT 7 Lite Beta (Build 2.6.0, 64 bit) to slipstream Service Pack 1 into the Windows 7 RTM image, copied from the DVD.



3. Dell drivers and DriverMax

a. (This step can be omitted, but it can ensure the harvested drivers are clean and stable.) Format and reinstall Windows.

b. Reinstall all Dell drivers, along with manufacturers' drivers, like AMD, NVIDIA and Intel. You can refer to my list of updated drivers, excluding the drivers for video card.

c. if you are not using the touchpad at all, it is recommended not to install Synaptics Touchpad Driver. Your laptop and your touchpad work fine without it. The driver introduces 2 additional processes, as seen In Windows Task Manager.

d. Install DriverMax and use it to backup all drivers.

e. Make a copy of the harvested drivers.



4. Windows Updates

The direct links for all post-SP1 Windows updates are listed here.

For Internet Explorer 9, use this link. Do not use the exe version as RT 7 Lite can only integrate msu file. Please rename IE9-win7.msu to IE9-Windows6.1-KB982861-x64.msu.



5. Virtualization software, like VirtualBox or VMware.



6. Some Pointers To Ponder

a. Carefully think about your needs. That way, you can use RT 7 Lite to remove components you do not need.

b. Start with conservative preset first, one that removes a few components. Install this customized image into your computer, and then install all games and software just as before. Test whether all of them work. If not, try to modify the preset to remove less components. If they do, it means that the preset works fine.



Once you are satisfied with this preset, try to use a more aggressive preset, that removes more components, and test it again in your computer. Keeps on doing it until some of your applications do not work anymore. Revert back to your previous preset and that is your sweet spot. In short, it is overclocking. You have to experiment with it,

Reply 1 : Guide: Create A Customized Windows Installation DVD For More Responsive Windows

This post is reserved. Upon general demand, I will post further performance-based tweaks, less commonly seen in the Internet.

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wow really nice work, gonna gave this a try next time i reformat. +rep

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inap

Thanks for your support. Post your result (iso size and Windows installation size) here if you have reinstalled your own customized Windows.

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I provided a link back to my previous thread, showing the list of updated Intel drivers for M15x. The most interesting one is the driver for WiFi.



A gentle remainder here, just use faiz23's preset (available in his thread) first. Once you have tested the customized Windows created with faiz23's preset by running all software and games with no problem, then you can remove slightly more components. After trial and error, your preset should be closer to my preset.



Keep on trying, and you will have your own slimmed-down Windows 7, running smoothly for your pleasure.

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+rep!

i'll be building mine soon

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+rep

rt7lite is AWESOME

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Can anyone direct me to the thread where all the materials needed for a reinstalled Alienware experience (i.e. wallpapers, logon screen background, etc.)?

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TheHighlightGuy



Refer to HOW TO: Restore the Alienware 'Look and Feel' after a clean install of Windows 7.

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Thanks!

I knew I had read it somewhere...

Website Software / Free Templates

Hi all, I've been tasked with producing a website for my brother for his charity carping4heroes. I've built a few websites in the past but have not done so for a couple of years.



I've had a look at the free software list but couldn't see anything website related, so has anyone any suggestions for a good free software.



Also, does anyone know of a good site to get free templates. The reason I want free, is that as it's a charity, the budget for this is pretty much $0!! So I've got my back against the wall so to speak.



Any suggestions/help is very much appreciated.



Thanks in advance guys and gals!!!

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If your after HTML templates then this site might be of your help:

Free Layouts.com | HTML Templates

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Cheers for the link.



Just to add, the charity is based around fishing to raise money for injured servicemen and women (Please don't turn this thread into a political argument about your views etc etc), so I guess outdoors/fishing based templates would be good.

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That's awesome! I'll have a look around and see what I can dig up!

Reply 4 : Website Software / Free Templates

If you're like many professional web developers, every site on the internet is already a free template.

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That's awesome! I'll have a look around and see what I can dig up!



Thanks!!




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If you're like many professional web developers, every site on the internet is already a free template.



Would that not be classified as theft, as it is for charity the last thing I'd want to do is get into some legal wrangling over a website template?

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It is literally theft, among other things (copyright violations, etc). It still doesn't stop people.

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free templates at oswd:



Open Source Web Design - Download free web design templates.

Mices with Alienware looks :D

I think this one fits perfectly with AW looks, furthermore is supposed to be a really good mouse.





ROCCAT STUDIOS V3.0 - PRODUCTS Gaming Mice ROCCAT Kova[+]





Any other models?

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I think this one fits perfectly with AW looks, furthermore is supposed to be a really good mouse.





ROCCAT STUDIOS V3.0 - PRODUCTS Gaming Mice ROCCAT Kova[+]





Any other models?



I want one, but not available in the US. what the feez!



the cyborg rat looks cool to0. hehe

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Try the Cyborg R.A.T.s or mod a Razer Deathadder/Mamba with a RGB led instead of the blue one so you'll get the AlienFX colors (this is what i did, pictures soon with the whole system in the m17x section).

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I used a RAT 9 for a while, but didn't like it a whole lot. Looks-wise it would certainly fit though.



I'm using a Performance MX at the moment, and it's what I'll be using with my M14x.

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I used a RAT 9 for a while, but didn't like it a whole lot. Looks-wise it would certainly fit though.



I'm using a Performance MX at the moment, and it's what I'll be using with my M14x.



Performance MXs are Awesome. might snag one soon. hehe

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Try the Cyborg R.A.T.s or mod a Razer Deathadder/Mamba with a RGB led instead of the blue one so you'll get the AlienFX colors (this is what i did, pictures soon with the whole system in the m17x section).



How would you do that o.o? Is it supposed to work along with the AlienFX command center? Any programs to install or did you actually have to switch out/play with the internal components?



P.S. I would go for the Razer Mamba as well just because it's wireless. When dealing with laptops, I hate wired mouses -.- Just plug it into one of the left ports and you're good to go And it glows all the time



The only reason I didn't get the AW TactX Mouse (or w/e it's called) is because it's wired and it's a little too small for my tastes.

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How would you do that o.o? Is it supposed to work along with the AlienFX command center? Any programs to install or did you actually have to switch out/play with the internal components?



P.S. I would go for the Razer Mamba as well just because it's wireless. When dealing with laptops, I hate wired mouses -.- Just plug it into one of the left ports and you're good to go And it glows all the time



The only reason I didn't get the AW TactX Mouse (or w/e it's called) is because it's wired and it's a little too small for my tastes.



No it's not supposed to work with it i never said that!

the Deathadder/Mamba have a blue LED with pulse effect (with the help of the board), replacing it with a RGB LED,the last one pulses with a different color (red green blue and combinations of them which result in IE: violet, turquoise etc.) at the same frequency as the stock blue LED.

It's pretty simple, i never keep my stuff stock

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All the Razer mices look alienware-ish IMO



Razer | For Gamers. By Gamers.

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The Logitech G9X matches well with it. I use it with my M11X-R1

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The Logitech G9X matches well with it. I use it with my M11X-R1



Agreed~ G9x would be also on the sweet spot.

Starcraft II on M11x

I just got hands on Starcraft II, I was one of the last ones to get it before it sold out. If you want to know how it runs let me know. I'm downloading the game right now and it's at 95%, and I bought the hard copy at a local game store. I'll update my status soon..

Reply 1 : Starcraft II on M11x

you can play the game at high settings with high performance battery power with ease. i was in the beta and it was a dream playing on this bad boy

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maybe the retail will run even better. hopefully on ultra settings P: gotta try it out

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Wow! I still don't have my m11x yet... Can you still have a nice framerate in 3v3 or 4v4 huge battles? Not on ultra, high would be enough...

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how was the launch btw:? did they have the dude in a marine costume?

Reply 5 : Starcraft II on M11x

is it playable without disc by online verification?? or do you need the disc??

Reply 6 : Starcraft II on M11x

you do not need the disc. Just verify it with the code, however you buy it. It seems that the code is linked to your account name instead of the CD or game itself, which would allow for playing games without the CD.

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you can also download the digital copy once you activate your bnet account

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you do not need the disc. Just verify it with the code, however you buy it. It seems that the code is linked to your account name instead of the CD or game itself, which would allow for playing games without the CD.



Can you save your game offline? I mean when you are playing a campaign and you want to save your progress, can you do that without connecting to battlenet?

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it seems everything at the moment is done online. I need to sign on to my account in order to play singleplayer.

how to stop Windows Update just of notification of IE9

I install most Windows 7 updates, but I am not ready to go to IE9.
But every time I turn on my laptop I get a notification of a "new" update avaialable, that ends up being for the IE9 I keep declining.
How do I stop Windows Update from notifing me on specific updates I want to decline.

Reply 1 : how to stop Windows Update just of notification of IE9

When it comes up next time, RIGHT click on the specific update and choose to "Hide" the update. It shouldn't come up again.

Of course, you also have the option of changing the way Windows Updates notifies you. Some choose to disable the Automatic Updates entirely, at which time, when visiting the Windows Updates site manually, you can hide the update from there.. (Disabling Automatic Updates isn't recommended for most, except for those such as myself who are compulsive about visiting WU on the second Tuesday of every month at 10:00 A.M. PST.)

Still, hiding the update should work fine, even if you keep your current settings.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Im on a acer schools free laptop and i dont have to be forced to use IE9,as they keep sending constant updates for this diabolical browser,like the man say's he is not ready for use yet but the thing is i use google 100% of the time. How do i get IE9 off this laptop and replace it with the full Googe browser because it wont let me download the full Google set up, as IE9 was pre-installed and then i added the Google Homepage to use as im so used to it now,because Google just seems to be the best search engine going as folk's say '' Google it '' has become the new words of wisdom. Basically all i want is a better browser i know there is just no trust in IE9 and like today i recieved 24 virusis went in that fast it took mil-a-seconds to go in, but with pre-installed windows defender grabbed them and i hit a update button in this great program and it then comes up ''remove'' but obviously there still on my hard drive and dont know how to get them back off as i was hit 2 weeks ago with the similar trojan + virusis. But i am sure Facebook might have played a part in this hacking because it came in there a couple of weeks ago but now there are bogus security pages asking you to download different links but everyone on the page were saying ''im sure this is a fake site'' so there is nothing facebook really want to do and think more and more people are leaving it by doing what i done by Deactivating the whole account.
Shame as i was a long time user of Facebook site but i live in England when all my family are in Scotland so rather upsetting that simple computing can be so hard to keep away from hackers. To be honest i think i will need to actually take a step back from computing and get a x-box as it has many tricks and is not just for gameing with 320gig hard-drive cant go wrong.